Kitty answers some questions about Comfort Food…
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You’ve mentioned that Comfort Food was in part inspired by your experience with reading the Story of O, the classic Pauline Réage tale of a French photographer who is seduced by her lover into a twisted sexual slavery. You’ve also mentioned that the Story of O angered you at first. Why do you think that the Story of O had such a strong impact on you (good and bad), and what about the Story of O inspired you to write Comfort Food? |
I think part of what made me angry about Story of O was how impersonal it all was, and how Rene told O he loved her, but he still did all this stuff to her. Like I could have gone along with it if he hadn’t told her he loved her because I didn’t buy that he did. LOL. It’s a little too personal to talk about in detail to strangers, but Story of O pissed me off on a lot of levels for a lot of reasons, but I kept feeling like I had to read it again. Like there was stuff in there that I needed to read and deal with.
It wasn’t anything specific about the book itself that inspired Comfort Food, it was more my reaction to it. I wanted to write a book that inspired strong emotional reactions like that. Love or hate. Something that moved people and made them think. Maybe about their own internal journey. Maybe about their own kink. Whatever.
A couple of other books inspired Comfort Food in some ways… Nine and a Half Weeks by Elizabeth McNeil… That book bugged me because they go on this kinky journey, but then at the end it’s like the book makes this moral judgment and then instead of taking the characters where it’s natural for them to go, they make the “socially approved” choice and break them up. And I was like, WHAT??? So when I wrote Comfort Food, I thought, “Screw it. This isn’t going to be socially acceptable. I don’t care what the PC ending would be. The ending is going to be what makes sense for these characters.”
And the other book was a nonfiction book I’m rereading now called How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World by Harry Browne. Basically the book is about how people allow others to manipulate them and take away bits of their freedom… and that freedom is about living your life the way you want to live it. So everybody’s freedom isn’t created equal. Someone who is agoraphobic, for example, won’t find the wide open wilderness very freeing or comforting.
And Comfort Food deals a lot with this concept of freedom and social acceptability. And when do you make the decision to break off from what society says so you can have freedom as you define it? I think most of us allow ourselves to be enslaved to the opinions of others. To the extent that we do, we aren’t free. And for many of us, gaining our freedom is a lifelong process.
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I am always intrigued by the concept of feminism in the context of BDSM. Hard-core feminists would probably have a heyday with Comfort Food, with its nonconsensual eroticism, submissive sexuality in general, and playing into the “evil male” stereotype. Despite this, Emily is actually a very strong, intelligent, sane, independent female character. What Comfort Food communicates well with her journey and transformation, despite the nonconsensual captivity, is the reality of D/s and M/s relationships, which in actuality rely very heavily on personal choice, self-control, strength of will and personal reflection. How would you defend Comfort Food and Emily’s journey, if at all, against arguments of it being demeaning toward the female gender? |
Well, as is probably obvious, I am not a feminist. While I don’t think every male is an alpha or every female is submissive, I do think most mammalian sexuality is drawn along lines of dominance and submission with male dominance and female submission being the statistical norm. And I don’t have some kind of social or personal problem with that.
Either way though, Comfort Food isn’t about “all women,” it’s about Emily and women like her.
Emily does show a lot of personal self-control and obvious decision-making. The hardest decision for her is letting herself submit to him. She has to convince herself that no one will blame her because she’s the victim. It’s more about what others will think. If she and Master were the only people who existed on the planet, I don’t think she would have gone through that struggle. She’s so scared of herself that she dissociates from part of it, not because she can’t handle it, but because she’s so terrified she can’t. So she gives form to those fears.
She makes several decisions to show obedience to a degree that is above and beyond what someone “just trying to survive” would do. But I can’t be specific without spoiling parts of the book for people who haven’t read it but might like to.
I don’t think I would defend Comfort Food and Emily’s journey. You either get it or you don’t. You either like it or you don’t. I knew going in that this definitely wasn’t right for everyone. I feel that the description and the disclaimer make it clear what you’re getting going into it. People who know it’s not their thing but read it anyway… that’s their issue, not mine. :)
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It is often hard for authors to make an erotic novel about something other than sex. Comfort Food is classified as dark erotica and it certainly has its hot moments, but my takeaways from it were largely driven by my emotional connection to it, to the very believable psychological mind-play and power exchange in the novel. Since Comfort Food is written mostly in first-person point of view, having your audience connect emotionally with your characters is very important. Did you struggle at all in communicating Emily’s very intimate thought processes to your audience, both as she’s held captive by Master and once she’s been set free? Do you have a background in psychology or did you have to do a lot of psychological research in order to create this connection? |
Comfort Food was a hard book to write. It was very emotionally draining. I was going through a dark period when I wrote it as well. So… it was dark. LOL. It originally was meant to be lighter rape-fantasy fare. It wasn’t originally meant to go so deep psychologically. And probably many of my future books won’t be quite like this. A lot of the eroticism of this book is in the power exchange itself and not in specific overtly sexual acts or graphic sexual descriptions. The next book will likely break away a lot from this pattern.I wrote it pretty slowly but it wasn’t that hard to write… except emotionally. Like it wasn’t hard to plug into Emily’s thought processes… it was just hard to BE THERE. It was the experience that was hard, not making the words come out.
I have studied human behavior quite a bit. But I had a clinical psychologist (who is also a professional editor), beta read and edit the book. I was pretty sure that I had the psychology right because I’m kink-wired. I already know how many submissives think/feel. But, I wanted to make sure from an outside reader’s perspective that the psychology played right. The psychologist is a self-proclaimed “vanilla,” so it gave me more assurance that I hit all the right emotional points for realism.
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Your original target audience for Comfort Food was the kink-wired individual with an openness to nonconsensual kink/fantasy, but you’ve noted that Comfort Food has surprisingly attracted a significant “vanilla” following. What about Comfort Food makes it appealing to both audiences? |
I think it’s because it’s so psychological. I think you can read it and get something from it even if you aren’t specifically turned on by it. Some have found the book bothersome because it’s “eroticized.” But that’s sort of the point. It is noncon erotica… so I’m not sure what some people thought we were going to be eroticizing here.
The eroticism of the situation, combined with the psychology and level of reality, is what makes it “controversial” to begin with. Taking away the eroticism takes away the entire point of the book. A reader doesn’t have to be turned on by it, but they have to be willing to accept that Emily is turned on by it. If they can’t at least accept that part, then Comfort Food probably isn’t right for them.
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Writing a highly emotional, not to mention controversial, book such as Comfort Food has to have had a life-changing effect on your own psyche. How has writing Comfort Food changed you as a person, if at all — from the planning process, to the act of writing the book, to the aftermath? |
I think the biggest effect on me has been that when you write a book like this you can’t write it without letting some of your own psychology be on display. I think one of the problems with a lot of kink-type books is that a lot of people write them because they’re “trendy” right now. It’s not necessarily something that’s in their own wiring. They may have the props and words right, but… the underlying psychology and feelings… they don’t understand that wiring, so they don’t get it. And there is something missing. Other people who are largely non-kink wired, who just want to be titillated by something a little “naughty,” won’t see what’s missing from the equation, but another person with that kind of internal wiring will.
When I was writing it I was telling myself I wouldn’t really publish it, it was just for me. It was really the only way I could get through it. If I’d thought for a second that someone else would read it, I think I would have censored myself too much. It’s not that it’s super graphic sexually, or that there is anything particularly “out there” about the sex that does happen. It’s the nakedness of the psychology.
But when I finished it… I let someone read it. And that person loved it. And so I let someone else read it, etc. And after enough positive reaction I knew I needed to put it out there. But, even then I assumed it would get mostly a negative reaction because a book like this just tends to piss people off. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how overall positive the response has been, and how many readers seem to deeply “get” what I was trying to convey.
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Great interview Zelda and Kitty, with questions that are interesting to potential and existing readers of Kittys’ work. I fall into the first category but after reading an excerpt and following Kittys’ Blog feel Comfort Food is a book I would appreciate, I like dark emotional reads, and the noncon element doesn’t worry me. I’m currently waiting for the print version and as soon as it’s released will bump Comfort Food to the top of my shelf. Once again thank you for such an interesting interview.
Cool, Adrienne, I hope you like it when you get it. If you keep up with the blog, you’ll find out first when it’s available in print. I’m so looking forward to holding a print copy of this book in my hands!
I’ll admit when I first saw this book reviewed, I was hesitant to read it, but so many of my book friends have said such great things about it that I am really looking forward to reading such an emotional, deep story. Great interview!
I have read soooo many reviews on this book that are completely polar opposite. I am soooooooooo intrigued!!!!! It’s definitely on my TBR and because of how passionately people are being affected by it, I definitely want to move it up on the list. I want to know why people are so affected when they see chicken soup now LOL!
Thanks, Colette!
Pamela… It’s my mission in life to ruin chicken soup for everyone! :P
Though perversely I was actually eating chicken soup while working on proofs for the print release.
And yes, people either love this book or hate it. Which I love. :)
@adrienne – thanks! hope you love the book… not too much longer!
@colette and @spaz – it is intriguing! the emotional ride alone is worth it. hope you enjoy!
@kitty – chicken soup isn’t necessarily ruined, it’s just a reminder to behave! lol.
LMAO!
Great interview. I have a question for Kitty – what’s between vanilla and kink-wired? Do I need a new classification? LOL
I loved Comfort Food. By far one of the best books I’ve ever read. And best of all? I’ll never forget it.
LOL Cari. I think it’s all a continuum. Labels are just shorthand. Maybe chocolate and vanilla swirl. :) (Now I want a chocolate and vanilla swirl ice cream dammit!)
Thanks!
@Cari – Thanks! Perhaps we could just call it a twist? ;)
I really want to read this book. Even though i don’t really know if it’s right for me…I liked the interview and I hope I can read it soon
Thanks Rafaella!